The Steps Are Set – Now Move

0:00:00 – (Steve Gray): I believe that God has marching orders for your life. In other words, God already has ordered the steps you should take. All you have to do is put your feet down in the right place and I’m going to tell you my life story a little bit. How I did it and how you can do it too. On the next More Faith More Life podcast.

0:00:18 – (Steve Gray): You were made for more than the status quo. I’m Pastor Steve Gray and this is the More Faith More Life podcast. This podcast is for Christians with an ambitious heart who want to be more for their family, do more with their career, and see more of God’s promises in their life. I’ve spent many years as a worship artist, minister, nonprofit leader, bold truth speaker, and most importantly, father and spouse. When I was in my early 40s, I was craving more.

0:00:46 – (Steve Gray): More from God and more from life. I’d done everything I was supposed to do. My life was good, but it wasn’t good enough. So I spent the following years diving into the Word of God and searching for the biblical principles that would bring me closer to God and help my purpose and life flourish. That’s what I want to share with you. In every episode you’ll get practical tools based on real life experiences that you can put into action to redefine your faith and ultimately you’ll understand life.

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0:01:28 – (Steve Gray): Hello everyone and welcome to another More Faith More Life podcast. I’m Steve Gray. My wife Kathy’s here with me. We enjoy visiting with you, teaching you, referring to the books that we have. If you go to https://stevegrayministries.com, there’s books, there’s supplies, many things you can get that a lot of it you’ll not hear any place. Kathy, I don’t know if I should say any place else because there’s people saying things I don’t know.

0:01:55 – (Kathy Gray): Of course, yes.

0:01:56 – (Steve Gray): But most places what I hear are kind of repeating the same thing over and over. And it’s sort of a self-centered feel. We’re trying to make you feel better about yourself. Where I’m trying to get it. Where you get the power of God. That changes yourself.

0:02:09 – (Kathy Gray): That’s right.

0:02:10 – (Steve Gray): And that’s been my life. My life and my walk. And you’ve been working on a project. I’ve seen you go up to your office and you work on a project. Maybe you’re going to have to turn it into a book or a project or some kind of thing. And so I know you’ve been working on that. Tell me what you’ve been working on.

0:02:26 – (Kathy Gray): Well, I feel like at the stage of life you are right now, you’ve impacted so many people. You’ve preached all over the world. You’ve brought the spirit of revival and the understanding of it to nations and churches everywhere. And you have a legacy. And I want to begin to share your legacy of walking in the word of God and having your life ordered by the word of God. I want to share with other people, young people who are just starting with God and they want to preach, they want to do, they want to be.

0:03:00 – (Kathy Gray): But how did you start and how did you learn to cooperate with the Lord and then just, I want to go through your life a little bit. Is that okay?

0:03:09 – (Steve Gray): In some podcasts, I think God put in us legacy because he, you know, you read that start with the Old Testament early days, and it was Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. And then you can keep going on and on.

0:03:21 – (Kathy Gray): That’s right.

0:03:21 – (Steve Gray): And. And where it says, even Jesus comes from the line of David. And you can read that the. What is it? When you open the Bible in Matthew and then you open in Luke, and they show their genealogy. Different ones, different directions. So it’s important to God that we leave a legacy behind. Okay, so what would you like to know?

0:03:39 – (Kathy Gray): So you’ve left behind a legacy of faith in the Word of God, actually. And I just like to think of our very early days when we were saved and filled with the Holy Spirit and that journey, and me having the blessing to watch you grow and learn how to do all this in God. And I was thinking right now maybe you could share the story with the people of one of your favorite psalms that God had brought you and how it became life, what you did with that psalm. Then I’m going to back up a little. Early days.

0:04:13 – (Steve Gray): Okay, well, and this is pretty early.

0:04:15 – (Kathy Gray): This is early.

0:04:17 – (Steve Gray): You want to start with that?

0:04:18 – (Kathy Gray): I’d just like to start. I like to start with Psalm 37, 23, because it describes our whole life together.

0:04:27 – (Steve Gray): Yeah. So I found the scripture. I was fairly new. I just would read and take something in that, like, oh, okay. So I found a scripture that I really liked as a beginner and starting out, just been a Christian two years maybe at the most. And I found a scripture that says the steps of a man. And this is King James. The steps of a man are ordered by the Lord.

0:04:52 – (Kathy Gray): Yes.

0:04:53 – (Steve Gray): And then it talks about if he falls or stumbles. God’s going to uphold him. But I took it and I took that word and I really, really like that word. Are ordered by the Lord. Now other versions have softened that a little bit and took out the order part and just said they’re like Ivy says, those steps. God makes your steps firm. That’s good too. So you won’t fall. Or if you fall, he’ll pick you up. That’s good. But firm steps to me were not as powerful in my life at that time as ordered.

0:05:22 – (Steve Gray): So that means God’s not cracking a whip ordering me. But he set that. He set an order. Instead of ordering like giving an order, he’s got an order. God has an orderly kingdom. He’s God. Jesus is the Savior. The angels are below all that. An orderly kingdom.

0:05:41 – (Kathy Gray): Right.

0:05:42 – (Steve Gray): And so where Paul wrote that, no, we need decency and order in our lives, in our churches. So my steps are already set in emotion. I just got to put my feet down where they go.

0:05:56 – (Kathy Gray): Yeah.

0:05:56 – (Steve Gray): And so that’s how I started. And then as you referring to. That’s a very first song I wrote. I took that scripture. Now that song was way beyond it’s time. And I wrote because I had a music. I have music degrees and stuff. Really different. I still enjoy that rhythm that I did with it. But it was before its time. And it. You know, I never was a big hit. I had some songs that were big hits, but that wasn’t it.

0:06:21 – (Kathy Gray): But for me, because it was convicting.

0:06:23 – (Steve Gray): That’s true.

0:06:24 – (Kathy Gray): But yeah.

0:06:25 – (Steve Gray): So anyway, so I wrote a song. The steps of a man are ordered by the Lord. Though he fall, he will not be cast headlong.

0:06:32 – (Kathy Gray): That’s right.

0:06:33 – (Steve Gray): So. And the Lord. So that began a lifelong cause. That’s been many years ago now. But the orders were set then in my heart. I just need to follow the order.

0:06:45 – (Kathy Gray): Yes.

0:06:46 – (Steve Gray): That’s all. Just follow the orders. And it’s going to be good and it’s going to be powerful. And you remember not knowing anybody or anything that had already started. We had people that were in the ministry that had what we sometimes call a prophetic or very preaching understanding of it. Didn’t even know anything about me. Would come up and say, you are going to touch nations. That’s a big statement for one who just now is getting his orders.

0:07:13 – (Kathy Gray): That’s right.

0:07:14 – (Steve Gray): Just right.

0:07:14 – (Steve Gray): I didn’t know what they were, but.

0:07:16 – (Kathy Gray): But you were careful. You’ve been careful to follow.

0:07:19 – (Steve Gray): I need just to follow orders.

0:07:20 – (Kathy Gray): Yes.

0:07:20 – (Steve Gray): The order of my steps. And these people listening. You got steps. And I like the word order that God set it. He’s ordered them already, you know, so.

0:07:31 – (Kathy Gray): You got to learn how to hear his orders. And the only way you can learn to hear his orders, you’ve got to know his word.

0:07:39 – (Steve Gray): Yeah.

0:07:40 – (Kathy Gray): Because he’s never going to contradict his word in what he tells you to do next.

0:07:44 – (Steve Gray): You know, you have an Amazon account, which is very convenient, even I like going on there occasionally.

0:07:51 – (Kathy Gray): Convenience at times.

0:07:52 – (Steve Gray): And sometimes you can get it the next day.

0:07:53 – (Kathy Gray): Well, when you’re buying for grandkids, if.

0:07:57 – (Steve Gray): You go there and you see it, then what do you do? You process it. And it said your order is complete or something like that. I did that yesterday.

0:08:05 – (Kathy Gray): You click something, you go to the cart and there’s been.

0:08:09 – (Steve Gray): It’s been ordered.

0:08:10 – (Kathy Gray): Right.

0:08:10 – (Steve Gray): And now it’s on its way.

0:08:12 – (Kathy Gray): Yeah.

0:08:13 – (Steve Gray): So when your steps are ordered, God ordered the steps for you, and these steps are on their way. You just got to put your feet down where they belong and keep going where they belong.

0:08:23 – (Kathy Gray): Well, you know, I want to back up then to. Because that song, when you wrote it was like you said, about two years after we were filled with the Holy Spirit and called and we were going into the ministry by then, but at the very beginning of our married life. And when you were saved and filled with the Holy Spirit, stood up and you said, I’ve been called to preach, then the ordering began. Right. That very second.

0:08:51 – (Kathy Gray): And I remember we lived in a very small town, Dawn, Missouri, 124 people. But God was moving and teaching. And there was the rest of our family in Sedalia, Missouri, being filled with the Holy Spirit and a whole group of talented family musicians. And we were seeking God. And then one day when you were praying, the Lord showed you something. And it was the beginning of the orders. Of the orders.

0:09:19 – (Steve Gray): Yeah. So we were actually. We were in that little town, but there were lots of little towns. And they all congregated and they all built one school.

0:09:27 – (Kathy Gray): Right.

0:09:28 – (Steve Gray): So it was a 2A school. I mean, it was a pretty nice school, nice building. And I was a music teacher. Fantastic building. They built brand new. And I was. We. We had a. We had a great thing going.

0:09:38 – (Kathy Gray): Yes, you did.

0:09:39 – (Steve Gray): But I started getting that stirring and it’s amazing. I said I was. When you say it, just have somebody saved, filled with the Spirit. I’ll just go ahead and say. I began to sing in tongues and speak in tongues, but the first word in English, my language, was I’ve been called to preach. Bang, bang, bang. How does that happen?

0:10:00 – (Kathy Gray): How does that happen?

0:10:01 – (Steve Gray): But it happened. So we go back as teachers because we had contracts and. But the stirring of God. I’ve been called to preach was stirring. And we were in our living room, cute little house we rented, and I had my Bible open, thumbing through it, and I was praying. And you were over here and you were praying, you know, learning how to pray. And suddenly it was like I saw a neon sign. It’s the best I can describe it, like, in the air, you know, eyes open or eyes closed. I could just.

0:10:27 – (Steve Gray): And it said, two Kings and a six. Okay. And I kept seeing it and seeing it. I didn’t know what to do with it. So I.

0:10:36 – (Kathy Gray): That was supernatural. Like, you were seeing it in the spirit realm, yet with the eyes of your heart.

0:10:42 – (Steve Gray): Yeah, it just was there.

0:10:43 – (Kathy Gray): Two Kings.

0:10:45 – (Steve Gray): I didn’t have to close my eyes, and I didn’t have to open my eyes. It was just like, I see something, but I don’t know how it happens. But anyway, I didn’t know what to do with it. So I got on the telephone and I called back to our hometown where we knew some people that also had, you know, they were serving the Lord, filled with the spirit, living the life. And I said, I need help. I said, I’m praying. And I keep seeing this. Two and a kings and a six.

0:11:09 – (Steve Gray): And I don’t know what does it mean? And I thought they might be able to interpret it or something, being so new, I didn’t know. And they. They almost laughed. They said, what are you talking about? Don’t you know there’s a book in the Bible called Second Kings? There is a chapter 2 Kings 6. So he said, what they suggested is go to 2 Kings 6 and see what it says.

0:11:33 – (Kathy Gray): Yeah.

0:11:33 – (Steve Gray): All right. What they didn’t know was what I had prayed before. I saw that, you know, now we were praying about, should we stay and teach another year or should we start out our ministry? I’ve been called to preach ministry. What should we do? What should we do? What should we do? And we’re so young and raw in it, like we didn’t know, you know.

0:11:54 – (Kathy Gray): We were pretty happy and beginning to content in a town of 124, but the consolidated school district and all the people, and you were leading your kids to the. You know, to the Holy Spirit and.

0:12:07 – (Steve Gray): Meeting in homes with prayer meeting, and.

0:12:09 – (Kathy Gray): We were beginning to touch this whole community, the farm community. We’d go to people’s farms.

0:12:14 – (Steve Gray): Yes. So there wasn’t any reason to get out, but we Just felt like, you know, what? What, What? I don’t know what to think, and I’m not wise enough. So I was reading in the Bible and I see this, like, neon sign. 2 Kings 6.

0:12:30 – (Kathy Gray): Amazing.

0:12:31 – (Steve Gray): And so I. Okay, I hung up the phone. I go to my Bible because I know what I’ve been saying. What should we do?

0:12:37 – (Kathy Gray): What should we do?

0:12:38 – (Steve Gray): I opened it to 2 Kings 6 and looked down and read, see the place where you’re dwelling is too small for you. And he said, go. And that was 2nd Kings 6, that. Whatever verse it was. And we took it. I don’t know how that happened. It just happened.

0:12:57 – (Kathy Gray): Yeah. It so meant it instantly revealed something to you.

0:13:04 – (Steve Gray): And that was it.

0:13:05 – (Kathy Gray): That was it.

0:13:05 – (Steve Gray): That was it.

0:13:06 – (Kathy Gray): That was it.

0:13:07 – (Steve Gray): And talking about faith and the Word and putting your feet down in order. I said, there’s. We just got an order. We had nothing when we left. We left our jobs and we taught the rest of the year. But we left and put all our stuff, which wasn’t much, into a grain truck. Came back to our home, my hometown, where my family was, threw our stuff in their garage and went into one little tiny bedroom to seek God to. What does that go mean?

0:13:30 – (Steve Gray): We didn’t have an income either. We had no jobs. We gave up the jobs that we went to college for. Yes, to go now and have nothing.

0:13:37 – (Kathy Gray): And we were excited but scared. Well, I was scared.

0:13:42 – (Steve Gray): Yeah, you. Nervously scared. Was natural on the level. You were at me. I just was stepping it out. Right. I was just putting my feet down. I don’t know. I don’t know. But you know what? We’re going to do this. I had no question of doing it. I just didn’t know how.

0:13:58 – (Kathy Gray): And I was thankful you were stepping and I was learning how to step where you had already stepped, honestly.

0:14:05 – (Steve Gray): So that was the first turning point that got us moving.

0:14:09 – (Kathy Gray): Right.

0:14:10 – (Steve Gray): And we still been going ever since.

0:14:12 – (Kathy Gray): We’ve been going ever since. And then when we were in that little tiny bedroom, I will never forget that because, you know, we’re going. Well, okay, here we are, God. Now. Now what? Now what’s going on? And one morning, we were just lying there in bed like, well, what are we supposed to do today, God?

0:14:33 – (Steve Gray): And then I was kind of praying and trying to seek the Lord, praying.

0:14:36 – (Kathy Gray): And I just kind of woke up out of my sleep, and there he was praying. And I could feel the presence of the Lord stirring in the room. And then you said something to me that I didn’t know that word. The meaning of the word. But you know what you said?

0:14:52 – (Steve Gray): Yes. And you started crying.

0:14:56 – (Kathy Gray): And not out of joy. I mean, I was crying out of.

0:14:59 – (Steve Gray): So what happened?

0:15:00 – (Kathy Gray): Premature morning. Well, you said to me, Kathy, you know, I’ve been reading Romans 12, verse 1 and verse 2, and I am now committing myself to the Lord, presenting my being to the Lord as a living sacrifice. And you were just so sincere and you. And it meant so much to you. And I thought, he’s presenting himself to God as a sacrifice. A sacrifice means you die, you’re over with, you leave the earth.

0:15:32 – (Steve Gray): So you started crying, like, what does this mean? You shouldn’t have said that.

0:15:37 – (Kathy Gray): We’ve been married just a brief amount of time, and now he’s doing this with God.

0:15:42 – (Steve Gray): So out of the best revelation I could get on that young age, I said, no, no, no, no, it’s. Kathy, it’s a living sacrifice. I didn’t know what that was exactly, but I just said, remember, we, you know, it’s a living sacrifice. And now we know. Of course. I think the church plays only on the Jesus sacrifice. The dying sacrifice.

0:16:05 – (Kathy Gray): Yes.

0:16:05 – (Steve Gray): I don’t have our folks. I probably don’t need to go into the greatness of that. The dying sacrifice of Jesus. But he died as a sacrifice, and the sacrifices don’t end. Some people say, you know, sacrifices end. They didn’t end. You’re next. But you get to be a living sacrifice. And so I tried to make that my next step first was go. And then now I have to learn what it means to be a living sacrifice acceptable to God. And I’ll know, and it will transform my mind and I’ll know what the will of God is. That’s that whole passage.

0:16:41 – (Steve Gray): So I guess that’s enough being said that that was what. And I didn’t know anybody else at the time who was even considering that. They certainly considered Jesus dying sacrifice and all that he did for us. But now our return to be a living sacrifice. And the Bible says that’s our worship, that’s our true worship. So I didn’t know that then, but actually what I was doing by trying to be that it was actually a form of worship which was more than just singing songs and raising your hands.

0:17:16 – (Kathy Gray): But, you know, then the next verse, Romans 12, verse 2, says, so you want to be a living sacrifice? Here’s how you do it. Be transformed. How? By the renewing of your mind. And I’ve heard people ask you over the years, well, how do I get transformed? Well, the answer’s Right there. By renewing your mind. And I think sometimes a lot of people and, you know, students of the Word, then they say, well, okay, well, God, renew my mind. This is just a special gift from you.

0:17:54 – (Kathy Gray): Make my mind to think straight, and I’ll just wait for you to do it.

0:17:58 – (Steve Gray): Well, they make so many that do read the Bible, Bible students, even seminary students, whatever. They read the Word and get inspired and knowledge, right?

0:18:09 – (Kathy Gray): Yes.

0:18:10 – (Steve Gray): But they’re not reading it like I read it.

0:18:13 – (Kathy Gray): Yeah.

0:18:14 – (Steve Gray): And that is that I want this to transform me. Because they didn’t understand. Most people don’t understand. If you want to change the way you act, you have to change the way you think. That’s what Paul is saying.

0:18:25 – (Kathy Gray): Right.

0:18:26 – (Steve Gray): Change the way you think, knowing the word of God, and then you’ll be transformed and you’ll know the will of God. So if people. If people say, I don’t know what God’s will is, they need to go back and change the way they think. Get in the word of God. Let it change the way you think, not just the way you act or be inspired. And I feel good and God feel, oh, God, it feels so good to be near God. That’s all great, but you have to change the way you think. So that’s the second part that I wanted to know the will of God. And I knew I was going to have to change the way I think, so I went. I mean, I did a lot of changing in the way I thought.

0:18:58 – (Kathy Gray): Yeah. And, you know, I think that’s the difference between you and thousands of people. And a lot of the people that came into that, the charismatic movement when we. We did, so many people say, nobody’s going to tell me what to think or how to think. And then their minds never become new. And then because of that, they really are unable to become a living sacrifice and serve the God and serve God and please him, because they have a stubbornness. Nobody’s. Nobody’s going to tell me how to think.

0:19:32 – (Kathy Gray): Nobody’s going tell me how to speak. But that. You know, that word transforming actually means the picture of metamorphosis where a caterpillar spends time in that cocoon, and then it learns how to break its way out with its wings. And if you come along and you try to tear open the cocoon for a butterfly that you can tell is trying to come out, it kills the butterfly. And so you become metamorphosed by the word of God. You get wrapped up in that word and then you become not a butterfly. That’s really silly. But you Become a transformed being.

0:20:13 – (Kathy Gray): Now, I guess now you can fly.

0:20:15 – (Steve Gray): Well, we have a cultural problem, though, and you almost said it this way. I’ll say it this way. We have a cultural problem. And it’s a fear, too. Nobody is going to tell me what to do. It’s a fear when, if I’ve had parents that didn’t go to our church and their kids get married and they have a kid and they start coming to our church and they go back and tell them all the great things they’re learning and the parents panic.

0:20:39 – (Steve Gray): They go, like what? Oh, this pastor, he’s telling you what to do. Nobody’s supposed to tell you. And yet the whole word of God and God is ordered steps where he tells us what to do. Where do you want to go next before we finish?

0:20:53 – (Kathy Gray): Well, I think that’s about it. I think being able to take orders, being able to commit, to become, listen, if God says go. But you need to be really seeking before you hear that word. And then growing in the word where you present yourself living sacrifice. And you’re going to live it and do it, and you can do it because of the word of God has helped you know how to think. And I’ve watched you do that all these years and increasingly grow.

0:21:25 – (Kathy Gray): And I think that’s part of your legacy that I want to share.

0:21:28 – (Steve Gray): And you talked about traveling the world and ministering all over the world. And one of my favorite things that we’ve done is we would do pastor ministry conferences where, especially in the daytime, it opened to the crowds at night, but in the daytime it was mostly all pastors or evangelists or worship leaders or whatever. And sometimes there’d be 500 or a thousand five hundred. I’m thinking in my head of a particular place. It’s in my head right now. I can see it. And there were about 500 and pastors there. But then I would go to the night and there would be more than pastors. Just be folks, you know, from whatever country, you know, like in San Diego or Singapore, wherever it was, whether it be a thousand, two thousand people would be there.

0:22:10 – (Steve Gray): Japan, thousand, fifteen hundred, two thousand people. And watching them watch me. And it’s not me. I’m not, you know, everybody. You can go into that. Well, it’s not me. It’s really the Lord. But they’re not. They’re not looking like this is really the Lord. They. They believe that, but they’re looking like, I want what you have.

0:22:31 – (Kathy Gray): Exactly.

0:22:31 – (Steve Gray): How did you get to here? Yes, to where the God moves so powerfully so quickly in so many places, so rapidly that you can come in and do so much in a short amount of time, in just an evening or a couple of days, and yet they’re looking at it, trying to figure it out, but they’re not thinking that they need to change their thinking.

0:22:51 – (Kathy Gray): Right.

0:22:51 – (Steve Gray): They, they. They’re inspired. There’s. Okay, look at me. Okay, I’m going to do this. But if you would change your thinking, you’ll be transformed too. Maybe not exactly like me, in a different level. So for me up there, I mean, you can see it in their faces. I want what you have. I want the spirit of God on the level that you have. I want to experience it, I want to know it. And that’s why when I’d say, if you want what I have a lot of. If you want this, come now. And they running.

0:23:18 – (Steve Gray): They would come running to the altars. You remember in Japan, we were on this, a big, high stage in a big auditorium, so they actually had to come up the stairs. I mean, it was like five feet high. Six, five, probably feet high. And we’re on it, so we’re ministering. And when I said, And I’m thinking they’re going to come to the front and I’m going to have to come down where they are and pray for people. And I said that. And we have an interpreter, of course, whatever they said in Japanese.

0:23:44 – (Steve Gray): And it got so powerful. You remember hundreds of pastors.

0:23:48 – (Kathy Gray): Yes.

0:23:48 – (Steve Gray): Flocked and rushed and roared on the stage. Up they came and they, they. They were just everywhere and they flew everywhere and they fell and they yelled and they praised and they were changed. And that’s the desperation, which is good, but that desperation. There’s so much you can do is get your orders.

0:24:10 – (Kathy Gray): Yes.

0:24:10 – (Steve Gray): Understand your steps. They’re already laid out for your life. Now you just got to choose them, choose that life. Put your feet down in the position. And then you’ve got to think differently. Like, sacrifice is a good word, but it’s a living one. And now I got to figure out what that means to me. How do I figure it out? Get in the Bible, read it, and let us change the way you think about things. Not just inspire you or say, well, I believe in God, and that will then transform you by the renewing of your mind.

0:24:44 – (Steve Gray): Then you’ll know what the will of God is, and then you can become what inside you want to be. So that’s the short version.

0:24:53 – (Kathy Gray): Right. And that’s part of the legacy that I want. I feel God is telling me share this with the people. So next week we’re going to go on into more areas of your life growing in the word of God.

0:25:08 – (Steve Gray): And I think you’re taking the journey not just by episode of what happened in our life, but by scripture episode, bringing the word. So you’ll take. Okay, here’s the next scripture that impacted your life, that changed you and that you let that be your new orders.

0:25:22 – (Kathy Gray): Yes.

0:25:22 – (Steve Gray): And so we’ll talk about that. When we had the scripture that said the place where you’re dwelling is too small for you, so we got to go be bigger for a while. Right. And travel on a bus and travel. You know that ministry.

0:25:35 – (Kathy Gray): We’ll begin talking about all that.

0:25:36 – (Steve Gray): And then God sends. God sent us back to a small place and left.

0:25:42 – (Kathy Gray): That’s right.

0:25:42 – (Steve Gray): What happened?

0:25:43 – (Kathy Gray): Okay, don’t tell them now.

0:25:44 – (Steve Gray): I’m going to tell them next because I know these.

0:25:46 – (Kathy Gray): Well, you don’t know if you’re going to tell them.

0:25:48 – (Steve Gray): But we went back to another place.

0:25:50 – (Kathy Gray): Yes.

0:25:50 – (Steve Gray): And that we had to figure out what is going on. And that was the next steps that were ordered by the Lord. Well, be sure and support and like us. Tell your friends about us. I hope that we are unique enough and transparent enough and being just ourselves. They tell us people just want real people. So we’re being real with you and just sharing the adventures of our lives to help you find your destiny and walk in the steps of the Lord that he’s ordered for you. Till next time. Bye-bye.