Prepare to rethink what spiritual growth in marriage looks like, as we challenge the misconceptions surrounding submission and leadership roles. Our dialogue delves into the Biblical framework that encourages wives to become well-versed participants in their faith, side by side with their husbands. We address the misuse of ‘submission’ in contemporary society, clarifying that it’s about aligning with godly teachings to foster a shared journey towards righteousness, not about enforcing hierarchies. This episode promises an enlightening exploration of how the spiritual underpinnings of submission are designed to strengthen, not stifle, the marital bond.
Key Takeaways:
- Submission in marriage should be understood in its historical and cultural context, recognizing that it was intended to facilitate the learning and growth of women who lacked education and spiritual training.
- Wives are called to submit to their husbands’ spiritual leadership, respecting and learning from their guidance in matters of faith.
- Submission does not mean blindly following personal preferences or tolerating sin. It is about creating an environment of mutual respect and growth within the marriage.
- Husbands have a responsibility to love their wives as Christ loves the church, nurturing and supporting their spiritual development.
- Establishing a healthy and balanced dynamic in marriage requires open communication, mutual submission, and a shared commitment to spiritual growth.
Where To Dive In:
0:00:00 Introduction to the topic of wives submitting to their husbands
0:01:24 Clarifying that wives should submit to their own husbands, not to men in general
0:02:50 Discussing the context of the passage and the cultural background
0:06:46 Explaining the situation of pagan women and Jewish women in the early church
0:09:17 Comparing the submission of wives to Christ’s leadership of the church
0:10:52 Addressing the idea of women being silent in the church and asking questions at home
0:11:52 Exploring the interpretation of wives submitting to their husbands in everything
0:12:21 Why wives should submit to their husbands in spiritual matters.
0:13:21 Wives should learn from their husbands and submit to their teachings.
0:14:47 Husbands should lead the household in the ways of God.
0:17:38 Why submission is necessary for order in the household and the church.
0:21:55 Submission is less relevant in modern times due to increased education.
0:23:19 Many women are leading households due to lack of male leadership.
0:24:26 Consequences of a wife taking over household responsibilities.
0:25:26 Negative impact of a wife becoming the head of the house.
0:26:25 Psychological effect of a man feeling like he’s living with his mother.
0:27:47 Importance of letting the husband lead and take on responsibility.
0:29:02 Role of husbands in loving their wives and creating a spiritual atmosphere.
0:29:54 The importance of God’s order and living with faith.
About the host:
Steve Gray is the founding and senior pastor of Revive Church KC. He has been in the full time ministry for over 40 years and was launched into national and international recognition in the late 1990’s as the leader of the historic Smithton Outpouring, and again in 2009 when he lead the Kansas City Revival which was televised nationally on the Daystar television network. Steve is also a veteran musician, songwriter, recording artist and published author. His books include When The Kingdom Comes, Follow The Fire, My Absurd Religion, and If You Only Knew.
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Transcript:
0:00:00
Hey, I can’t wait for you to listen to today’s podcast on more faith, more life. We’re going to talk about should wives submit to their husband? Is it outdated or is it still for today? Find out. Hello, everybody. Welcome and to another more faith, more Life podcast. So glad we could be together. Today we’re going to talk about submission specifically, should wives submit to their husbands? All right. And that’s a hot topic is sort of avoided today.
0:00:26
But when Kathy and I first got married and then we weren’t Christians, then we became Christians and it was much better. And we heard of this group. In fact, they were here in Kansas City. We didn’t live in Kansas City at the time. And you came for the weekend and they had a big conference. I mean, 5000 people would come and they would hit all about stuff, religion and things. And one of the big subjects that they hit over and over and over was the submission of wives.
0:00:55
Now, Kathy was there, we were newlyweds. We didn’t buy into all of it. We looked at it with some wisdom, I think. But some people, it was like wives are supposed to submit to the husband in everything. And that word, everything in their book was everything. Home preferences, whatever he wanted, you submit to that. And the only specific thing they might have said, and I’m not even sure they said this, was until.
0:01:24
Unless it comes down to sin, then you don’t submit to a husband’s sin. I guess I did hear that somewhere along the way. Well, it’s not a very good teaching and it’s not very balanced in where we are today as compared to them. So it’s a little out of context, but it does say that. Okay, got you here. Ephesians, chapter five, wives, submit yourselves to your own husbands as you do to the Lord. All right?
0:01:49
So we need to specify what that means. Notice it says that some of the other translations, earlier ones, don’t have this correctly. But this is correct, pretty close to correct. Okay. This says, wives, submit to your own husbands. All right? Now that’s important because the way the church is interpreted for a couple of thousand years, maybe 1000 years, is wives, submit to men. Okay. Wives should submit to men.
0:02:19
Men are here, women are there. And that’s not what this says at all, right? It says, wives, submit to your own husbands, not to somebody else’s husband. All right? Wives, submit to your own husband. Okay. And then it talks a little bit, some other things. And then at the end of this passage, wives also, wives should submit to their husbands in everything. That’s what it says, no wonder that ministry I was learning from in early days, they said everything and it said everything. And so we sort of took in everything.
0:02:50
Okay, now we need to put this in context and see if it fits. Okay, so let’s go back to when that was said, when Paul wrote that to the Ephesian church and way back then and what was going on. Okay, so let’s look at it. First of all, previous to this church that we’re talking about, the Ephesian church or the other churches could be the Philippian church, whatever. The women that he’s referring to were of two classes. One, they were Jews.
0:03:22
Two, they were non-Jews. Okay, let’s talk about the non-Jews. First, the non-Jews came out of pagan religion. Now we’re not talking about a non-God society. We kind of live in a non-God society. People sort of believe in God, but they don’t serve a God. Well, this is not that way. In pagan society. Paul is pull. It’s really different. In evangelism, Paul is pulling people who are already faithful to a God and then converting them to be faithful to the living God, the real God.
0:03:59
All right, that’s a whole lot different because these people had a faithful walk. They were faithful to a God. They just switched to the real God, the God of the universe. Today it’s harder because now we’re trying to do the same thing. Like how come we don’t get 5000 saved in one day like they did or whatever? And the difference is we are dealing with a culture and a society of people who are not serving God.
0:04:25
Doesn’t mean they don’t believe there is a God. They’re not serving God. They don’t have a faithfulness. They don’t have gifts that they’re given to a God or God. They haven’t been serving God. And then all we got to do is get them to switch gods, right? There’s zero God, no God. They have no habit of serving God. There’s no godly principle. There’s no get up in the morning and pray or whatever these pagans did or gave gifts to a frog God or fish God or whatever, but they were giving gifts, they were serving, they were asking, they were trying to please a God.
0:04:57
Okay, but we’re in a society that’s not trying to please a God, right? Any God. And then we try to convert them and now all of a sudden there’s a huge God in their life and they’ve basically been godless. Not that ungodly. Maybe. Maybe they’re good people they try to serve God or whatever, but they have not been serving a God like they were in this day. These are very faithful God people that were serving the wrong God. Okay?
0:05:22
So there’s those women, there’s those men. They convert to Christianity. They start understanding. They are taught, and then Paul starts the church. And now the pagan women who converted, guess what? They get to come to church. Now, if they were around the Jewish religion, only then they wouldn’t get to come the same. They would have a section for women. And it’s just different. The teaching is different. Even like today, over there in some countries, they don’t let women learn or go to school.
0:05:54
Okay, keep that in mind. That’s the culture we’re talking about. We’re talking about a culture like over into the more legalistic religious cultures today, different religions that don’t. They make women cover their faces, cover their heads. They don’t let them learn. They don’t let them go to school. Okay? Keep that in mind, because that’s the culture we’re talking about right now that Paul entered into.
0:06:20
And the pagan women got born again, got saved, got born again, got filled with the spirit. They speak in tongues now. We put them in church, okay? They haven’t been in church. They haven’t been in anything. These are women that were excluded from learning. They weren’t excluded from religion. They could still serve a God, okay? But they weren’t participants. They didn’t go to the men’s meeting, so to speak.
0:06:46
And if they were Jewish, that’s part one. Part two is the other women. The other women are Jewish women. Because we have Jews believing in Jesus, right? Turning to Jesus and making Jesus the messiah. So now we have non-Jews who came out of paganism, and we’ve got Jewish women. Now. The Jewish women were the same, pretty much. They could be around God. They could go to God meetings some, but they didn’t have any say.
0:07:10
They didn’t have any rulership. They didn’t have an. Just because they weren’t taught. The Jewish women were not taught like the men and boys. The pagan women were not taught the same. So here we have this group of women, two different groups, Jews and non-Jews. And Paul then opens up the church and says, bring them in. Let them participate. Let them be in the church. And that’s new. Sometimes Paul has been given that he’s against women or something like that, but he opened the churches to the women.
0:07:43
But what do you do with them? Okay, here’s the problem. They didn’t know anything. They didn’t know what to do. They had not been taught in certainly the God of the universe, Yahweh, especially Adonai, and all the names that we give to God, Adonai, Elohim, all the Jewish names they have, and they had not been taught anything. And so all of a sudden you’re allowing them to be in and they don’t know what to do, and they don’t know what to think, and they don’t know how to act.
0:08:14
All right, so what would you do to solve that problem? So here you’ve got Jewish men, which would have been probably the leaders of churches if they could find them because they had a background, a God background, right, of scripture, Old Testament. So you got them. What would you do to solve this problem? All right, well, you’d have to say, look, we want you women to learn, okay? You need to learn.
0:08:47
So what we want you to do is submit to your husbands, okay? Just as. And if we keep reading, it says, for the husband is the head of the wife, just as Christ is the head of the church. Jesus is the head of the church. Okay, so does that sound bad? I mean, I’m supposed to submit to Jesus, right? Like, he’s the head of the church. I’m supposed to submit to him? What? Is it horrible? Is it bad? Is he going to push me into sin?
0:09:17
Is he going to show personal preference and not care how I think? You’re not going to care how I feel. Well, that’s what religion has done to women by submitting to Christ. And you don’t get to think. You don’t get to talk. You don’t get to speak in church, which is another thing we might bring up. You don’t get to do any of those things. But you know what? That’s not how Christ loves the church. Wives are supposed to submit to their husbands, just like the church submits to Christ.
0:09:49
Well, how does the church submit to Christ? There’s not a bullwhip cracking. Get with it, women. Come on. And you don’t get to do anything saying no. The church is submitted to Christ so it can grow, be strong, be victorious, win battles, be prosperous, be healthy. That’s what Jesus is doing to the church and asking them to submit to his ways so you can become strong and healthy, prosperous. Defeat your enemies.
0:10:16
Okay? So here’s these women. They don’t know anything. And so Paul says, look, you need to submit to your husbands because you need to learn, okay? Now remember, this isn’t part of this passage or this is what we’re going to talk about today. But even the part where I was taught with that one group, when we were first married, Kathy and I went to, women were to remain silent in the church and that you can find that scripture be silent. Well, why in the culture of the pagan world, then you have uneducated women?
0:10:52
They would come to church, and what was happening was they wouldn’t understand. Let’s say they don’t understand why everybody’s raising their hands. Let’s just use that. Right? They grew up in paganism. They didn’t do that. And so they’d stand up right in the service and say, hey, I don’t get it. How come everybody’s raising their. No, women should listen. Women should remain silent in the church. And it says what?
0:11:22
And ask their husbands at home. Wasn’t that they couldn’t speak. Wasn’t that they couldn’t ask. It’s. They didn’t know. And the public meeting was not the place to interrupt and ask a question. Ask a question at home, then you’ll know. And then we come in. Okay. And so first of all, so wives, submit to your own husbands, okay, because we want you to learn, not that we don’t want you to speak, not that we want you to be so submitted. Right.
0:11:52
But it’s submitting the same way that the church submits to Christ. So wives should submit their husbands. Now, it says in everything. Okay, so does that mean, like, when I studied with that group for a little while, just a weekend. But does that mean. Okay, so the husband, he gets to choose where we go to eat what we eat. The husband gets to choose what tv shows we watch. Right. He gets to pick the movie because he’s the husband. He’s the head of the household. Right.
0:12:21
Well, that would be out of context. Right. For one thing, they’re not watching movies. But secondly, this is not. Wives submit to your husband in everything, meaning everything in the world. It means wives, this is the context of the Bible. Wives, submit to your husband in everything. Spiritual. That’s where it starts. Spiritual. Okay, so the wives didn’t know, and so now they have a husband who’s supposed to be in the middle of this. Like, the wives don’t have to just jump in and get it all. You have a husband. If you’re married, you have a husband.
0:12:54
Wives submit to them. So the context of it is you got a husband that’s going to church, loves God, wants to serve God, wants to do. Right. You’re talking about a spiritual husband that’s in this congregation. In the Ephesian church. Okay? And now he says, wives, here’s what you need to do. Go submit to them. They love God. They’re submitted as a church. He says, as the church is submitted to Christ. So apparently he felt like they were and should be.
0:13:21
So he says, go learn. Go submit. Your husbands will tell you what to do in church. They’ll tell you how to act at home as a good wife. They’ll tell you what the God has been teaching them. Go learn from them. Don’t just freelance yourself. Go learn and submit to their teaching. So when we get into submission, we have Jesus, who the church submits to Christ. Right? Who is Jesus? Was Jesus the son of the living God?
0:13:48
He submitted to his father. He is single minded. He’s not going to run off and become a partier or wild guy or he’s going to stick with this so we can afford to submit to him because he’s safe. All right? So that was the point is, okay, wives, now you submit to your own husbands like we submit, like us guys are submitting to Christ. You submit to him like we are submitted to Christ so that you can learn, you can grow. You’ve got a safe teacher. They’re going to teach you spiritual things.
0:14:20
Now, how does this fall apart in our modern day? Well, even today we have men who, they’ll get in an argument with their wives or whatever and they run out of stuff to argue about and then they just hit the bottom line here. Well, the husband is the head of the household. I’m the head of this house, and you’re supposed to submit to me and I’m the head. Okay, well, that ends it. Well, that’s not in context, is it?
0:14:47
Yes, the husband could be the head of the household, but he is the head because he is going to lead the household into the things of God. If you got a husband that’s a pagan, then this doesn’t work. This is a husband and wife that are going to church and loving God, and the wife doesn’t know anything. She hadn’t been trained. So if you have a wife who’s going to church and loves God, but she has a husband who doesn’t, then she can’t go and submit to his ungodliness and his paganism and his worldliness.
0:15:21
It doesn’t fit. That was not the point. All right? The point was not to get women to submit to men or husbands. The point was to get women trained because they had not been trained. They didn’t know how to do anything. Now, those that know later when we talk about women should remain silent in the church. We’ve got women who were prophets, prophets in the church. And Paul, let them speak. Why? They were trained.
0:15:48
They were trained at home. You can read about their family, and I think there’s a bunch of sisters, and they were all trained and they were prophets and stuff. And so there you go. Now, so this has nothing to do with personal preference. You’re not submitting to your husband’s personal preference because Jesus, we’re submitted to Jesus. He’s not causing us to submit to his personal preference. He’s causing us to submit to the will of God and the word of God.
0:16:20
Okay, put that in context. Now, you could tell the wife, submit to him in everything. In everything. He is not doing personal preference. He’s going to teach you and talk. We’re going to talk about godly things. We’re going to talk about Bible things. We’re going to talk about the kingdom of God, personality of Christ, what we’re doing, what God’s doing, the will of God, way of God, all those things, all right?
0:16:43
And he’s going to teach you and he’s going to tell you stuff. And when you get there, maybe you don’t understand it. Maybe you were serving a pagan God. You were serving the dragon God or something. Now it comes and he’s starting to teach you how to serve the living God and you’re not sure. I don’t know. This doesn’t sound like what I was taught. And what would Paul say? Listen, just submit to him in this. Submit to everything in this, because he knows he’s been taught. In fact, Paul taught some of them.
0:17:11
He knows. Learn from learn. Learn what? All this is about what? The gifts of the spirit, because they did have them there, the power of God. They had miracles. They spoke in tongues. They did all this stuff, worshipped. So now submit to him. Why? So you can learn. That was the goal, not so you could be submitted. All right, why am I submitted to Christ? Why should our church be submitted to Christ?
0:17:38
Because we’re going to learn. And once we learn and we hear it, then we’re going to put it into action as the Bible says. Don’t just hear it, but do what it says. Do what the Bible says. So the goal for the women then, and the wives, I should say, was not to get them submitted. The goal was to get them educated, okay? So they could be full participants. They weren’t interrupting. They weren’t going, what does this mean? I don’t get it.
0:18:04
They knew they were equal partners in it. And yet the same thing. We keep that submission going. And here’s another reason why. Because the household, assuming it’s a husband and wife and some kids, a household still needs a leader, okay? You can’t have anarchy or you can’t have everyone does what’s right in their own eyes. Well, I’ll just do what’s right for me, hubby, and you do what’s right for you. And we’ll let the kids do what they want to do. And when they get old enough, we’ll let them decide if they want to serve God.
0:18:37
A household needs a leader because the church needs a leader, right? The church needs a leader, and the leader is Christ, who’s the head of it. And then he assigns other leaders on that. You know, all that apostles, he gives other leaders in there, okay? But the first leader is Jesus, and we need a leader. And so the church stays submitted to their leader. Even if we learn this, we keep learning. We keep learning.
0:19:03
And so the church needs leaders, and that’s Christ. And the household, like a mini church, needs a leader. And in our case, the husband might not always be right. Husband’s got things that they’re learning, too. But that doesn’t excuse us to say, well, then we’ll just have a riot here and we’ll all do what’s right in our own eyes. Because after all, dad’s not that perfect. And my husband, he’s not perfect.
0:19:30
We still need a leader. Now this leader, the man, he got a lot of responsibility because he’s supposed to love the wife the way Christ loves the church. And how is Christ loving the church? It says, nurturing, training, raising them up right. So this is a very loving Jesus to his church, it says, now, husbands, be that way. Be that way to your wives. Teach them, train them, give them space to learn.
0:20:01
And so this submission is a beautiful thing because it’s so respectable. It’s respectable to everybody. In fact, Paul writes here, he says, submit to one another out of reverence for Christ. That’s the first thing. So that’s the church. Submit to one another, submit to one another. So you get home and we need a leader. But that doesn’t mean the husband might not say, well, you know what? That’s a pretty good idea. He says to his wife, let’s do that.
0:20:28
So then he’s sort of submitted to, everybody’s humble, everybody’s learning, everybody’s trying, everybody wants to do the right thing. So now we got a good order, we’ve got a husband, he’s trying to lead the family in the things of God. And children should respect that. Wives should submit to it and respect that. We’ve got some order, right? If the husband’s wrong, God will have to show him. Right.
0:20:54
You can point it out. You have other church leaders that if your husband’s going crazy, you have other church leaders, you can go to them, right? To the leaders. Now, you don’t go to everybody’s husband because that’s not your husband. But you got church leaders, go to them and say, my husband, he’s just off. Could you talk to him? And so we have some backup there. Now, how does that apply today? I guess we better get to that.
0:21:21
How does that apply today? Well, it doesn’t, because the women today, a lot of them in church, what, they grew up in Sunday school, just like the guys, right? They know us. I mean, we got pretty dead religion. We got pretty dull religion today. That doesn’t have much to submit to, right? I mean, what do you submit to you don’t submit to because people aren’t really serving God, right? So the submission is not really part of our culture, but the application is still there.
0:21:55
Women know as much as men. If a man goes head over heels for God and really goes for it, converts and goes for Jesus, well, the wife can, too. And both of them in our culture here at least have about equal training, which is nothing, really. Zero. But they’re educated women. They can read. Women couldn’t read. Then I should have said that Paul could write a letter, but they couldn’t read it, okay? It was an exception. If they could, they would have had to grow up in a Greek or Roman home where they taught languages and stuff.
0:22:30
But the average woman in the Ephesian church wouldn’t know. An educated woman wouldn’t be able to read. And so they couldn’t even read the letter that Paul. And then they might not understand it because they have no background. So here we’re getting together for the one purpose, right, when it comes to submission, and it doesn’t end when you get educated, but because it also produces order, right? We have to have an order.
0:22:54
We have to have something that falls back on somebody. Somebody’s got to be responsible before God. Now, I don’t want to go too long and get off the subject, but let me do this. We doing okay, Zion? Doing good, aren’t we? Let’s do this. Let’s talk about men a minute. We already know women naturally don’t want to submit because they don’t understand why? We wanted you to submit because we want to make you a better person.
0:23:19
We want to make you a spiritual person. We want you to feel protected by your husband. You got a covering here of a husband who cares. He’s going to teach you. But that was it. Now, when women are more educated, we have a problem, because women are smart. They are as educated as the men. And so when you come into the marriage, then there’s not much submission. In fact, I’m looking just. I’m just going through my mind. Generally speaking, of marriages and culture, today, most of us are going to find the women are leading the household.
0:23:54
I read something early this morning about the concern with men losing their masculinity and their leadership, and they don’t know anything. They’re not leading. The women are mostly leading. Now, let’s go real quick onto that. So let’s take a husband who, not a tremendous leader, and they hear this teaching and they say, well, I guess that my husband, he’s not too sharp, but they say they’re not the sharpest knife in the drawer, but here he is. He’s my husband.
0:24:26
What do you do? Well, the easy thing to do is just take over and make sure the household is run, the bills are paid. We go to church. You’re getting the kids up, you’re making sure they get dressed and go to church. Just everything falls on the wife. And what you’re doing is you’re creating a weak marriage and creating a man who then gets dissatisfied in the marriage and starts looking for something else to satisfy.
0:24:55
Sports, the Internet, pornography, friend friendship, a girlfriend, another job, divorce, move away. Just close off, get a man cave and forget everybody else. These are all symptoms of one thing, of a man who has no sense of direction and no leadership. So if you want to really get this guy going, it’s not just your submission because you’re a woman. It’s his leadership because he’s a man. He needs responsibility.
0:25:26
That man needs to feel responsible. He needs to feel like a grown up. He doesn’t want to be married to his mother. Okay, it’s a little off subject again, that had a woman come to me and she was complaining. They’ve been married for so many years, and she says, you know, my husband, he doesn’t want to touch me. He doesn’t want to be intimate with you. Our bedroom is zero and there’s just no not going on. And now it’s getting really long, and I don’t know what’s wrong with my ugly.
0:25:52
Is it my weight is it my look, is it my attitude? Why doesn’t he want to touch me? And I began to listen and listen and listen and realize. And then I began to realize that she was running everything. She was the head of the house. She told everybody what to do. All the children plus him. She told him what to do. He just came home, he went to work, but when he got home, he just flopped in the chair. He didn’t have to do anything. He didn’t have to think about the kids homework, didn’t have to cook dinner. He just sat there and she did everything.
0:26:25
What happened was that’s what he used to do when he lived at home with his parents. He didn’t fix dinner. He didn’t worry about the bills. There was no responsibility, right? You know that. No responsibility. So he just come flopped in a chair when he was a teenager. Until then, he got married. Now he’s got a woman, and now he just flops in the chair with her. So what is happening? What is psychologically happening to that man?
0:26:48
He is now living with his mother. He just got a different mother. So then it comes time to be intimate and to touch and to do all the stuff she wanted, romance and all that stuff. He couldn’t do it. You know why? Because it’s the same emotion that he had toward his mother. It’s like, you’re like a mother to me. You’re a mother figure. You’re not this sexy wife figure. You’re a mother figure. You rule me. You tell me what to do. You correct me, you make sure I look right, dress right, be right.
0:27:19
And now all of a sudden, that spirit of like, I can’t do it. I don’t have an attraction to you. What is it? Am I ugly now? No, I don’t have an attraction because you’re trying to get me to be attracted to the role of the mother, and I need to be attracted to the role of the wife. And that’s when the wife then lets him be the leader, starts submitting. Start letting him lead. He may not be as smart as you, but he needs to grow up and lead.
0:27:47
So submit. Give him a chance to make some decisions. Give him a chance to be a spiritual leader. Ask him to lead a Bible study. Tell him you want him to lead, you want him to get the family, you want to share responsibility, stuff like that. But it’ll help if you’re having that, it’ll change everything. The man will begin to light up like a firecracker at night because he’s feeling manly. He’s feeling leadership. He’s feeling responsibility.
0:28:13
Stuff he never got to feel at home. He’s feeling now, especially as a Christian. Well, there’s too much to say about that, but I hope you understand what I’m saying now. Today it doesn’t apply as much because we have educated women. They’re smart. They’ve gone to Sunday school. They know stuff. So now we just have to set it up as an order of respect. You’re the husband. I want to learn submission, not because you’re always right, but because we need some order in the home.
0:28:37
We need the buck stops here type attitude. And I’m going to try to do that because that’s going to make you my husband. You’re going to be healthier and stronger. And for me, it’s good, too, because I need to let loose a little bit. I need to calm down, let loose. And we need to share this responsibility of parenting and marriage. So there’s where you get it. Should wives submit to everything? No, because not everything applies. A wife should submit to everything.
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Spiritual husbands, you should love your wife like Christ loved the church and bring a spiritual diet and atmosphere into the home, just like Christ does to the church. Not enough. Boy, I got to teach you more on that. You know, there’s my book, my absurd religion, which you can get on the website that’s got a chapter in there on women, right? Absurd studies, the way we treat women. And you should get that one. There’s also one about Jews. There’s one about the end times. There’s chapters.
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So you can get that book. I suggest you get that also. Don’t forget, look at the book. If you only knew. Oh, it’s a hot seller now. If you only knew. A guide to the clueless generation. If you don’t have it, get it. All right. So you can live throughout these days, exciting days. But we got to get these Bible principles. We got to get ourselves in order. We got to get God’s order into our life. He is a God of order.
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And then everything will start running better. Oh, there’s so much I need to teach you. So make sure you keep following us. Make sure. Keep listening. We’re going to hit many, many things to get you on track so that you live with more faith and more life.