How to Know God’s Will Every Time

0:00:00 – (Steve Gray): Do you wonder what the will of God is for your life? Well, I’m going to teach you how to know the will of God every single time for the rest of your life. So don’t miss the next More Faith, More Life podcast.

0:00:12 – (Steve Gray): You were made for more than the status quo. I’m Pastor Steve Gray and this is the More Faith, More Life podcast. This podcast is for Christians with an ambitious heart who want to be more for their family, do more with their career, and see more of God’s promises in their life. I’ve spent many years as a worship artist, minister, non-profit leader, bold truth speaker, and most importantly, father and spouse.

0:00:37 – (Steve Gray): When I was in my early 40s, I was craving more. More from God and more from life. I’d done everything I was supposed to do. My life was good, but it wasn’t good enough. So I spent the following years diving into the word of God and searching for the biblical principles that, that would bring me closer to God and help my purpose and life flourish. That’s what I want to share with you. In every episode, you’ll get practical tools based on real life experiences that you can put into action to redefine your faith and ultimately your life.

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0:01:22 – (Steve Gray): Hello everyone, and welcome to another More Faith More Life podcast with Steve Gray as the pastor and Kathy Gray as the wife pastor, too. You’re, you’re a good pastor. You’re a good speaker too.

0:01:34 – (Kathy Gray): Yeah. Thank you.

0:01:35 – (Steve Gray): Yeah. And we, I, I told her, I said I have a problem. She’s been, we, we both preach and stuff. I said I have a big problem. You’re, you’re, you’re a better preacher than I am. Now I got to get with it.

0:01:46 – (Kathy Gray): But you know, but you know what I, you say, and I say you’re more tired than I am. You know, you’ve, you’re working in so many areas.

0:01:54 – (Steve Gray): Yeah.

0:01:55 – (Kathy Gray): You know, and that, that keeps you going in a lot of so many good ways. But, but you know, you take such good care of me. Then I just get up there and I don’t, I don’t. Haven’t been dealing with everything, all these issues.

0:02:09 – (Steve Gray): I try to do that.

0:02:10 – (Kathy Gray): You take good care of me.

0:02:11 – (Steve Gray): Yeah.

0:02:12 – (Kathy Gray): Yeah.

0:02:12 – (Steve Gray): And not. And not have you have to worry about anything.

0:02:16 – (Kathy Gray): Yeah.

0:02:16 – (Steve Gray): Yeah. But, but still, but still. I congratulate you.

0:02:20 – (Kathy Gray): Thanks.

0:02:20 – (Steve Gray): Your great sermons and you’ll be preaching next week and coming up. And I’m preaching in the future, you know, so. And others. We’ve got other great preachers in our church, too. Well, Kathy, we’ve been talking before. We gave these. All these parables, and we got through the parables. And now you’re starting a new phase with. Even in your writing and stuff, and you’re bringing it in here. So set us up. What are we going to talk about today?

0:02:43 – (Kathy Gray): Well, you know what? I just had it on my mind living with you. Married 50 years, and you have such a legacy. And I want to gather the stories, the incidents, the principles, the way you learned the Word of God. And I want to gather all of this and get it set into motion and maybe even a little chronological order of your life of faith and your life in the Word of God. So that’s what’s been on my heart.

0:03:14 – (Kathy Gray): How have you grown in the Word and in the Spirit? And so we’ve been doing that. And last week we talked about how God told you in Romans 12at 1 to present yourself as a living sacrifice. And what that meant to me. I thought it meant, oh, my God, he’s going to die. But then in Romans 12, verse 2, following, you know, it talks about, don’t conform to the pattern of this world, but be transformed by renewing your mind. Then it goes on to say, then you’ll be able to test and approve what God’s will is. You’ll be able to demonstrate his will, his good, perfect, pleasing will.

0:03:50 – (Kathy Gray): And I want you to share today how you’ve grown in that. And what does it mean to even know the will of God and in our lives, in our ministry?

0:04:00 – (Steve Gray): Well, that scripture has always been one of my favorites, and it helped get us started in the ministry and be a foundation of our ministry all along. And of course, you already mentioned, present your body as a living sacrifice, holy and acceptable unto God, which is your reasonable service. And one of the translations says, which is an act of worship. So that’s the subject. We’ve already got there.

0:04:21 – (Steve Gray): And then don’t be conformed to the pattern of this world. Now, I want to stop on that. It doesn’t matter where I stop. Just share the scripture. I want to stop on that a minute because this sounds like maybe a little. What do they say? Condescending or critical or whatever. But I’m finding out so many people in the ministry, whether it be worship leaders or just Sunday school teachers or people that share, don’t know anything.

0:04:48 – (Steve Gray): They don’t know anything. And what they do know doesn’t help them and here’s the reason why. Because they, as you know, I’ve been talking on this, they are. They live a life called faith, but it’s not faith. It’s actually reactive faith. Okay, it could be in the faith, but they’re reacting and then applying faith as opposed to having faith that causes action. Faith is an action word. We live, we walk, we live by faith. Right. We present ourselves by faith.

0:05:19 – (Steve Gray): So that means faith is already set in. And then whatever happens, whatever’s going on or whatever, our faith is leading us. But I don’t see that. And especially in the pastors today, they don’t know anything. And that’s why these are so important. Or getting the book Mighty Like Gideon, or following us on this and telling your friends, subscribing, all those things are so important because that’s what I’m doing. I’m helping.

0:05:43 – (Steve Gray): I wouldn’t say young ones, it doesn’t matter the age, learn how to read the Bible and how to think. So. So they don’t know. And so the first thing they do, you say it says, don’t conform to the pattern of this world. So what. What comes to your. Okay, just off the top of your head or the general believer, if I say don’t conform to the pattern in this world, what do you. What pops into your head?

0:06:04 – (Kathy Gray): To act like them, to think like them, to respond, to react like people of the world or with worldly minds.

0:06:13 – (Steve Gray): Yes, because he does come up about your mind.

0:06:16 – (Kathy Gray): Yeah, yeah.

0:06:17 – (Steve Gray): But most. That’s good.

0:06:18 – (Kathy Gray): Yeah.

0:06:19 – (Steve Gray): But most people, when it says pattern of their world, the Christianity tradition takes over the. Oh, yeah, don’t smoke, don’t drink, don’t watch bad movies. And that’s kind of where they go and they miss it. And so the pattern of this world. So they not realizing the pattern of this world is to be a reactor, even if they believe in God. The pattern is I react and try to apply a faith that I really haven’t been using much. It’s like, it’s over here. It’s in my backpack if I need it, you know, But I don’t. I’m not walking in it.

0:06:49 – (Steve Gray): And so the pattern of this world is. But you pretty well hit on it what it is. The pattern of this world is how we do things. And so if a pastor is leading a church and he’s reacting and he sees the. The people are not getting along or they’re not tithing or they’re not attending or there’s trouble or whatever going on, or in his own personal life, well, then he tries to react by faith. Well, that’s the pattern of the world. Reaction is the pattern of the world.

0:07:18 – (Steve Gray): Redefining and redefining, responding. Right. And then taking action. In our minds, we’re redefining because we’re not going by the pattern of the world. So we see it, we redefine it by the will of God, which we’ll talk about in a minute, and. And then re. Redefine it. Redirect it to be. I’m not going to react, I’m going to act. And then you prepare yourself with the pattern of this world is to wait till something happens and then try to fix it.

0:07:51 – (Steve Gray): Wait till something happens in Christianity, wait till something happens. And then let’s go by faith. Wait till something happens. We have to pray, you know, and prayer is like the last resort, you know what I’m saying? Okay. So don’t conform to the pattern of this world is not outward things. It can be, but it’s not what he meant because he said, but be transformed by the way you think. Redirect your thinking.

0:08:19 – (Steve Gray): Redirect it. Redefine what it means to be a Christian. Redefine what faith is. Redefine. I am not an reactor. I am an actor on the stage and field of God. Right? So I’m acting. I’m ahead of. I’m always ahead of schedule. I’m always ahead of it. So then if things go wrong, I already know how I’m going to act. I’m not waiting for something and then I wasn’t prepared, but I’ll react. And that’s where people make mistakes.

0:08:47 – (Steve Gray): Being a reactor makes them make mistakes in marriage. Like, it’s easy to get in arguments and fights because you’re reacting to everything as opposed to. You’ve already set a standard of life, unity of the spirit and all those things. I don’t want to get off.

0:09:00 – (Kathy Gray): So would this be like you. You’ve talked so many years about making a preset.

0:09:05 – (Steve Gray): Yeah.

0:09:06 – (Kathy Gray): About everything.

0:09:07 – (Steve Gray): Yeah. Our good Pastor James mentioned that that was one of the things that changed his life. Is that you. You get a preset. It’s all things are preset. So, you know, I’m never going to quit. I’m never going to give up. I’m not going to get a divorce. You know, I’ll never spend money foolishly, stupidly, you know, when I really can’t afford it, but I’m going to rack up a debt and then pray that God pays it, you know, and things like that.

0:09:33 – (Steve Gray): Yeah. So you preset. I’m not going to do those things. There’s certain things that I’m going to take care of. So I have a preset. And so if people speak bad about me or that, or I should get offended or upset, I have a preset. I’m not going to bitterness, I’m not going to unforgiveness. I, I’m not going there. Preset, already set. And you know, I, that’s how I live. It’s preset. So when you ask how I’m going to act, I have. I already know how I’m going to act almost all the time.

0:09:58 – (Kathy Gray): Yes, you do. Yeah.

0:10:00 – (Steve Gray): So, so we preset and by. And then we. So we do it by the word of God. That’s why I mentioned Unforgiveness. You have to have zero. It’s zero. You can’t have some right and ask God to forgive you of all your trespasses and sins and I’ll forgive others of some of theirs. Well, it goes, you’re never going anywhere with God, you know, with that in the kingdom of God. And so with that then you go to the religious side and say, well, I guess church and kingdom of God is about dying and going to heaven. You know why? Because there’s nothing to do here.

0:10:33 – (Steve Gray): Because here you’re not redefining your life. Here you’re not redistributing how you think and redirecting your thoughts ahead of time. Now I know how I’m going to handle this situation. I know I’m not going to run to go into fear or go berserk or whatever. So he says, instead of the pattern of this world, be, don’t be conformed to it. Don’t fit the pattern of this world, but be transformed. Not formed, but transformed. Well, how do I do that? By the renewing of your mind, getting reset.

0:11:02 – (Steve Gray): Read the Bible and you read about, you know, that we should love the way Christ loves. Okay, that’s a preset now, right? Unity of the spirit. We should have unity. That’s a preset. I’m going to go for unity.

0:11:14 – (Kathy Gray): Yeah.

0:11:15 – (Steve Gray): Dying to yourself, lay down your life for your friends. Go one mile, no, go two miles. That’s a preset that I go. I’m a two miles guy or longer maybe. But anyway, all these are presets, right? So when something comes up and everybody else is going one mile, I already know I’m going to go to.

0:11:34 – (Kathy Gray): That’s very.

0:11:34 – (Steve Gray): I know when I show up, I know when I talk to you. I know when you come and ask me for Help. People come and ask me for help. Right? Yes. I’m not going to just go the minimum. I already know I’ll go as far as I can. I’ll go the two miles. But it’s set in me. And so I set that up by the word of God, by the will of God. And now I preset that in myself. And so, yeah, so then, now I have been transformed by renewing how I think, redirecting my thoughts, presetting how I’m going to respond and not react.

0:12:05 – (Steve Gray): Responding, reacting are two different things. Responding, you want to respond to God because. Because you know, it’s the truth. Reacting is. I don’t know what’s going on.

0:12:14 – (Kathy Gray): That’s right.

0:12:14 – (Steve Gray): I don’t know. Oh, I sure didn’t expect this. I can’t believe this happened. I don’t know what to do. You know, why, why is it always me? So now you’re reacting to all those things or you react. Finances are getting tight. So your reaction is, first of all, I’ll stop giving to God, which is not the right way to. Secondly, maybe I’ll go get one of those payday loans and get out of it real quick. Well, if you couldn’t do it on without that, you’re not going to be able to do it later. Now you got tremendous.

0:12:40 – (Steve Gray): So you, instead of acting on your faith, okay, my faith says God is a rescuer. What I’m going to do, I’m going to act on my faith. Know what is right. I’m going to take this money. This is just an example. I’m going to take this money and I’m going to give it in the offering. When my pattern, this world is grab it, go get a payday loan, pay what you can, pay $25 off a month or whatever.

0:13:03 – (Kathy Gray): Yeah.

0:13:04 – (Steve Gray): And instead you go, no, not me. I’m going to go give what I can. Because the money I have right here, Kathy, is not going to save me unless God saves me.

0:13:12 – (Kathy Gray): That’s so good.

0:13:13 – (Steve Gray): So instead of going putting it over here, where the pattern. I’ve renewed my mind. I’m being. I transformed it, what I do. So now I’m not reacting. Oh my. I already said if this ever happens, I’m going to give to God.

0:13:26 – (Kathy Gray): Right.

0:13:27 – (Steve Gray): If I ever have a financial need, I’m going to give more to God. I’m going to take what I can. I don’t want them to not pay their rent or something, but take what you can or what you blow or try to rescue yourself with whatever you got and give it To God, give it to the Creator.

0:13:40 – (Kathy Gray): Well, so you’re saying then like this second part then of Romans 12:2, that after you’ve renewed and been transformed and you understand how to respond rather than to react, then your life is a demonstration and showing you agree with and your life actually the tests that come to you and your response then show and demonstrate to the world what God’s will is. God’s will is for your life.

0:14:12 – (Steve Gray): When you get to the end of the little journey, whatever you’re going through, you just proved what the will of the Lord is. Because God came to your rescue. It helped, your mind stayed solid, you didn’t go crazy, you didn’t say things you shouldn’t have supposed to say all that. And you prove that this works.

0:14:27 – (Kathy Gray): And you know what? You’ve proven it. And you learned that way in our early days with the Lord starting out in the ministry and through actual real challenges, circumstances and things like that. And I wonder if you could kind of share how you began to realize or some examples really.

0:14:47 – (Steve Gray): Okay, so back up. I’m going to give an example, but let’s back up. I already have the preset. Yes, I’m going to walk by faith. I’m not going to give up. This is the will of God and that’s the way it is. Which I’d like to talk about more in a minute, but I already have. I set that preset before we actually went in the full-time ministry. So now I had that. So one of the examples that we had discussed earlier is we, we did buy a Greyhound bus.

0:15:11 – (Steve Gray): It was a music ministry. Greyhound bus, you’ve seen it. Name on the side of the bus and traveling all over the country and singing and ministering mostly start singing, then ministry and me preaching. But so we got it going and we needed to rebuild the whole engine on it needed to be rebuilt. So it’s like new. Pretty much like new. And so we did. And it was expensive. I don’t remember what it was, 5, 6, $7,000 or whatever it was at that, but we did it.

0:15:36 – (Steve Gray): We all get in at Yippee and we’re off to Montana. We get into just right inside Kansas, Quinter, Kansas, which I don’t know how far that is in Kansas. Halfway or.

0:15:45 – (Kathy Gray): I thought it was almost on the boundary.

0:15:48 – (Steve Gray): It’s not Colorado, I can’t remember. But it’s out in the middle of nowhere. And suddenly the bus starts smoking and stopping and the engine completely locks up on the highway on Interstate 70. And of course now we just got it fixed. What happened? So the mechanic forgot to put a certain hose to change the. One of the main hoses out and it was old and it gave way and the engine burned up. Okay. And it also. He had a warning light. There’s a warning light. He forgot to hook that up.

0:16:20 – (Steve Gray): So now it doesn’t matter though. We’re stuck. We got nothing. We’re stuck on the highway. We don’t have the money because the money we had was to get us to Montana and we’d already, you know, we’d fill the bus up with the diesel and all that stuff. So there we are. So we didn’t have the money. So we rented a room for the ladies and they stayed in the hotel, which is mile away and. And some people came, picked us up. Put you in there. And then the guys, we stayed on the bus and then I got rides from people during the day from the hotel and I would come back the room and get on the phone and start working on what are we going to do? We’re stranded, completely stranded.

0:16:55 – (Steve Gray): What are we going to do? And you know, I talked to people and it was a miraculous thing, right? We did get through to a diesel company. Your brother-in-law, Van DeHaven went and picked up parts. We got a hold of the mechanic and convinced him to drive all the way out there in his truck and rebuild that engine again. Now we had to come up with money. We had it. And it was really. Well, while I’m talking to people, because it was several days we were stranded. It wasn’t just overnight.

0:17:19 – (Kathy Gray): That’s right.

0:17:20 – (Steve Gray): And I’m calling people saying this is what’s happened and this is what they like to invest. You want to do whatever, help. And there were some of those great Christians that said, oh, your engine burned up right after you got it fixed. You know what? Maybe it’s not the will of God for you to go to Montana. Maybe it wasn’t the will of God for you to buy that bus. Maybe it’s not even the will of God to have this ministry that you have. You really need to consider it because if this has happened, this might be a sign from God that it’s the will of God. And that’s when that precept said it. No sir.

0:17:52 – (Steve Gray): No sir. I have a transformed mind. The Bible says when you’re renewed by your mind, by the renewing of your mind, you will know what the will of God is. I renewed. I was transformed. My mind was renewed. I knew. And I just shut that down instantly. No, sir, don’t. I I’m not even letting that get in my ears. No, sir. It’s the will of God. Now, here’s where it comes in. If it’s the will of God and you know it’s the will of God and you can prove it’s the will of God because the ministry was going great.

0:18:27 – (Steve Gray): That’s the proof. People’s lives are being changed, really changed. And, and so this is just a circumstance. So anyway, when you know it’s the will of God, then now you’re, you separate yourself from situations, circumstances, feelings, difficulties, challenges that, that come against us. The pattern of the world is to fall for those. So I separate myself from this. So if it’s the will of God, doesn’t matter how hard it is.

0:18:53 – (Steve Gray): If it’s the will of God, doesn’t matter how much it costs. If it’s the will of God, it doesn’t matter what other people say. If it’s the will of God, circumstances don’t matter. Situations don’t matter. I have a preset. I know what the will of God is. And the will of God’s going to get done. Maybe it’ll take long. Maybe we’ll have a setback. Maybe we’ll have to pray harder. Maybe we’ll have to not eat as well. We’ll have to cut back financially. Maybe we’ll, you know, but whatever it is, once the will of God, then the rest of it doesn’t matter and it doesn’t change. You’re not going to start being a reactor.

0:19:27 – (Steve Gray): You are an actor or a field manager for God in the field of God. That’s it. Yes, that’s it.

0:19:34 – (Kathy Gray): You know, that attitude has carried not only our ministry, our public ministry, but it has carried our lives personally. And I’m so thankful for a husband who grabbed a hold of that principle. And, you know, whenever I think about you and your faith, I always think you’ve got a bulldog kind of faith. You grab a hole like a bulldog does and you do not let go. And you know, no other outside force can make you let go of the promises and the will of God for our lives. And I’ve just seen that thousands of times over the years. And I, you know, I could share now for hours of watching that, but I know that’s what every family needs too, and not just the church that you pastor, but, boy, a marriage and relationships.

0:20:28 – (Steve Gray): You know, that bulldog faith isn’t something I turn on, right? Something that’s in there. Do you know if you, you, you can try to train a bulldog?

0:20:37 – (Kathy Gray): Yeah.

0:20:38 – (Steve Gray): You know, the aggressive, strong. You can try to train a bulldog and you can get them trained until they get startled, they get afraid, they get another dog shows up, and you know what they turn into? The bulldog. Yeah, it’s in them. You don’t say, be a bulldog. We trained you not to be a bulldog. You don’t say, go, be a bulldog. Come on, go after that other dog. No, normal circumstances, you can’t tell. It’s untrained.

0:21:04 – (Steve Gray): Life goes on, everything’s fine. But when disaster comes or the dog gets afraid or somebody kicks you or whatever, he doesn’t have to try to be a bulldog. He’s a bulldog. And that’s what we want to get that preset in, is that we’re a bulldog, if you want to use that phrase. But I want to say, so we’re preset before we turn into what we are. But I want to mention just a little bit longer here about the will of God, because this is something I haven’t heard very many people say. That’s why I like to share on this podcast.

0:21:37 – (Steve Gray): Here’s the deal. The bottom line is everybody knows the will of God. Whether you’re going to church, whether you’ve ever said the sinner’s prayer, as they say, or you’re saved, you’re lost, whatever it is, everybody knows the will of God. All right? Now, with that in mind, we’ve got to remove then the thought that the will of God is me to decide, well, should I go be a missionary in South America? Should I take that job?

0:22:02 – (Steve Gray): Oh, God, what is your will? Okay, that’s not what it says when the Bible in Romans one says, everybody is without excuse. They know the will of God, they know the creator God. But now you can get so weird and serious conscience that all of a sudden you’re not aware of the will of God and you start thinking, maybe there isn’t a God, all that stuff. But the bottom line is humanity. When they start out, they know there’s a God and they know the will of God.

0:22:30 – (Steve Gray): But then it goes into acts and works and things where I think, well, the will of God, who am I supposed to marry? I need to know the will of God. Where am I supposed to work? Which church should I go to or not go to or whatever? What’s that job? Oh, God, what is your will? And people are. Now what are they going to do? How are they going to decide the will of God? They’re going to go with circumstances and situations, but the will of God. And we’ll kind of go this direction. But the will of God is not whether you should go be a missionary to South America. Oh, what is it? God? Which way? This way? That way? It’s not that at all. The will of God is the renewing of your mind.

0:23:07 – (Steve Gray): The will of God is renewing of your emotions, the renewing of your redirecting so that you’re not the pattern of this world. And so it’s all about the mind and the emotions and the heart. And so most people, first of all, they don’t know the will of God. So they guess, they guess it’s the will of God, but they don’t understand. The will of God starts with character, honesty, integrity, forgiving everybody, as we’ve said, right?

0:23:31 – (Steve Gray): The unity, loving the way God loved us, it’s all. And loving God, honoring God, loving God, giving him a place in your heart. Wickedness, Kathy, remember is, I don’t care, okay? You don’t have to do anything sinful to be wicked. Wicked is, I have no regard for God. I don’t care. I just kind of go with the flow or I’m going to do whatever I want, okay? So the, everybody knows the will of God. No one can say, I didn’t know. I.

0:24:02 – (Steve Gray): No one’s going to be able to stand before Jesus and say, well, let me give you my excuse. And you know, he’s going, there is no excuse. You inside here as humanity created by God, you know the will of God. The will of God is to transform you. The will of God is to renew your mind. So you don’t fit, you don’t fit in with the pattern of this world. You’re his, you belong. That’s the will. Now whether you go to South America or North America or stay home in your church and teach Sunday school, that’s. That doesn’t matter.

0:24:35 – (Steve Gray): You do what you need to do. Go do what you sometimes what you want to do, depending. But the will of God is the character who you are and your integrity. Now go do whatever you want or go do whatever God wants. You know, I’m saying yes, marry the right. The will of God is to not be unequally yoked with unbelievers. Okay? That’s the will of God. Now, I don’t know how you’re going to demonstrate that. I don’t know where you’re going to work. If you go to work and you realize you’re going to be unequally yoked, well, you know that can’t be the will of God, no matter how much it pays, right?

0:25:08 – (Steve Gray): So this is where it really clears things up, that you will prove what the perfect and good and beautiful will of God is by. You’ve changed on the inside. You’ve redirected your thoughts, your emotions, redistribute them through you. You. You’re transforming by the renewing of your mind. So you’re not a reactor, you’re a re-director. Right? And you’re now an actor on the stage of God or in the field of God, putting the will of God out in your care when people meet you, when you react with people, when you live.

0:25:41 – (Steve Gray): And then on top of the will of God is what’s secondary. And sometimes just to clear it up. Kathy, I get it, it’s the will of God, but maybe if we clear it up this way, first of all, get the will of God in you, who you are, how you react or how you act, how you respond to God. Then after that, what comes after that? The ways of God.

0:26:02 – (Kathy Gray): Praise the Lord. Yes.

0:26:03 – (Steve Gray): Find God’s way. He is the way, isn’t he? He’s the will, but he’s the way. The truth and life. So now take the will of God that’s in you and now distribute it in whatever way. Maybe he opens the door. And if you’re not sure about the way, make sure you know the will is here. Then the way. Maybe God will let you choose. That’s another story where God gave me a choice. Which way do you want to go? He said, I’ll love you either way.

0:26:33 – (Steve Gray): Which do you choose? We’ll talk about that at another time. So there you go. That’s why. Now, just to clear it up, I’ve never heard this taught by anybody else in the entire world. Okay. This is my experience in my life of how I got to have what you called the bulldog faith to realize that I’m not going to be a reactor. I act, I preset, I predetermined, and I redirect rather than react.

0:26:58 – (Kathy Gray): Praise God.

0:26:59 – (Steve Gray): So that’s. That’s what it means, that scripture. So be transformed by the renewing of your mind and you will know what the will of God is. And that’s how I live. And it’s worked for me. And not just then when I first learned it. I do it every day or every week now. So thank you for helping to bring that out and remind me of these teachings. And sometimes I forget how I do things and how. How God got me through things. But I got back. It started with the word of God.

0:27:24 – (Steve Gray): I learned it from there. So thanks for helping to direct that and this direction you’re taking next week. Yes, you’re going to go another one.

0:27:31 – (Kathy Gray): We’re going to continue going because you have a rich life in the word.

0:27:37 – (Steve Gray): And so we’re going to share more stories, how I arrived, how I journeyed. Yeah, it really has worked from, from an obscure country preacher to national, international and 200 nations known. How did that happen? So we’ll share that with others. Don’t forget to subscribe and tell your friends and check out our books, especially the new and Mighty Like Gideon at https://stevegrayministries.com, and we also have a teaching guide that goes along with that. So thanks for listening.

0:28:09 – (Steve Gray): I hope this is helping you. I hope you go, wow, I’ve never heard this before. This is so rich and it’s changing your life like it has mine. Till next time. Bye-bye.